[SOLVED!] problem with Omerta ~Chinmoku no Okite~ (won't start)

Okay so I installed the game fine, but when I go to run it and click the desktop icon, there's the little loading hourglass for a few seconds and then nothing. The program doesn't start at all no matter how long I wait. @_@

This happens every time I've tried playing it. I've tried it with the patch and without, made sure I was set as the Owner (admin), added it to firewall exclusions, turned off antivirus, etc etc.

I'm running on WinXP.

Two weird things seem to occur frequently as well. Firstly, after the problem with it not loading, I can't seem to run any other windows processes such as when i first attempted to add it to the firewall exclusions after it didn't run (I ended up adding it after restarting), and worse then that, my computer can't shutdown or restart (so I have to turn it off from the back). At one point the computer froze up as well.

Secondly, the omerta_M.exe seems to be running when I check the 'processes' in task manager. I can't end it as a process at all. It's in the applications tab too, as 'not responding' and I can't 'end task'. :doh:

Anyone know what may be causing this and what I could do to remedy the situation (any suggestions would be welcome) so I can finally get to playing this game? Am I the only one who has this issue? T_T

I got it to work perfectly on Vista, now on Windows 7 I can tun it but it wont save. According to Windows 7 the best way tio run it is on XP mode, and you got XP + service pack 3. You should also make sure you got enough space. Cause sometimes programs wont run unless you got plenty of extra. I'm still trying to figure out how to fix the saving. :/

Oh, also make you your computer can view Japanese. Otherwise I'm not sure it will run at all...

Yeah, I'd suggest setting it fully to japanese as I was playing it on WinXP with no problems...until the PC itself died for some other reasons :sic:

I've got all the service packs installed, have tried it on full Japanese (I always have it on Jap in the 'language/non-unicode' bit anyway, but added Jap to the 'standards and formats' part too, for good measure), have PLENTY of extra space - it's still not working at all. >____>

as mentioned before, any suggestions are appreciated - I badly want to get this to work!

What other stuff do you usually have running when you start it up? PC's resolution...? Tried uninstalling, then reinstalling+apply patch? Where did you install it...? (ie I have 3 Hard-drives, so I had it be the non-main one instead of the default path it suggested) Have DivX9 or whatever the programm was called the game offerers by he install menu?
Turning off the anti-virus shouldn't be neccecary as you should be able to set it up as an exclusion, firewall I'd say is totally unrelated

the only program I have running is avast antivirus my internet connection (closed all other programs before I tried it every time). Resolution is 1920 x 1080. I have 2 built-in & one external hard-drive. have the Divx9c whatever installed (makes no difference - I think i had it installed already anyway).

I haven't tried installing it on the other hard-drives, which is what I'll do right now - I'll edit this post when I've tried that.

EDIT: didn't work when i tried it on the other hard-drives either.. sigh..

Which ver of the game did you download then? As I used the links uploaded by hydrog, so past maybe there being a difference by that...I have no clue as the problems seems to be the game not having enough memory to load when it should've started up instantly. Tried switching compatibilities by the properties menu...?

According to the official homepage you need to update your directx version, unless you already haven't or if you don't have it installed. Maybe, if you haven't tried it do it. The game should have an option to update it. Just a thought.

I installed the DirectX from the program menu right at the start - didn't make any difference. I used the version of the game that Hydrog uploaded - so if it worked for you then that can't be the issue either. I've tried switching compatibilities in the properties menu of the programs shortcut and none of them make a difference.

What confounds me about this whole thing is that Omerta appears to be running in the Processes tab of the Task Manager, but not in the Applications tab (it doesn't show up there at all).. so it's sort of weird.. like something of it is running, but if not the game then what? And of course right after initializing the program with a double-click, Windows starts freaking out - can't shut down or restart (always have to turn it off at the back because of that) and the start menu and such will freeze up; task bar disappears and whatnot. This is so weird!

Yeah, it seems like the game is stuck running midway somehow by something blocking it when it should open up in seconds. Though you can't even initialize task manager no matter how much you wait after starting up Omerta...? It can't be a problem with lacking Windows updates, as I never updated WinXP by mine...and I had no issues.

Do you have any extra virus programs or anything protecting program that may not like it? :/ Maybe someone already asked that. Probably. It's really weird. If you can run any other BL game you shouldn't have any problem running this. Even I managed to figure out how to fix the saving. Plus for some reason I don't even need to play with the patch anymore.

Task manager does work - or at least it opens up alright, but I cannot end the 'omerta_M' process at all (no matter what i try) and if I'm running the 'lunch.exe' program and click the option that starts with 'DVD', it immediately makes the lunch.exe program 'not responding' and if I try to close it through task manager Applications, it doesn't close.

As mentioned, my WinXP is fully updated, so that can't be the problem..

Very very strange! besides my antivirus, I can't think of what could possibly be causing this issue as I don't have any other programs running. I tried completely disabling the antivirus as-well, but as mentioned - that doesn't help either.

Could you maybe suggest what could possibly be blocking it? I've already added it as an exception to the windows firewall, disabled my antivirus completely, etc.. anything else that it could be?

I've never had this issue with any other BL game before either..

avast asked me if I trusted the program, and I checked so that it would open it "normally". You might wanna try turning your virus program off and maybe disconnect your internet and then try playing the game. If you already haven't. If it still doesn't work, at least you know it's not that.

Already tried both those things with no luck.

I'm going to try to re-download the entire program again and see if that makes any difference. according to a thread I was reading (from someone who seemed to have a similar problem with another program) using a download accelerator - like i was - can sometimes cause a little bit of data corruption that will occasionally make a program unable to run properly. So I'll try just a regular download & see how that goes. God I hope that's what's a matter because I think I may be going slightly crazy trying to figure this one out! XD

You should just try downloading it normally then.

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Originally Posted by eriberri

Already tried both those things with no luck.

I'm going to try to re-download the entire program again and see if that makes any difference. according to a thread I was reading (from someone who seemed to have a similar problem with another program) using a download accelerator - like i was - can sometimes cause a little bit of data corruption that will occasionally make a program unable to run properly. So I'll try just a regular download & see how that goes. God I hope that's what's a matter because I think I may be going slightly crazy trying to figure this one out! XD

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Well, that would be strange then as the few times I've had download managers corrupt files...it shouldn't have even let you install/unpack the file. But still probably worth trying out, afterwards setting it as trusted by your antivirus

Though shouldn't you be be able to shutdown by using the task manager?

found the solution!! It turns out it's a process called "MsdnResponder.exe" taking up 50% of cpu, it was Apple/iPod 'Bonjour Service' that was causing the problem (seems to have caused the problem for other people too). By ending the process tree and then starting the game it works fine! oh my lord I could weep for joy!!

Thank you so much to both of you for bearing with me while i figured this out and for all your suggestions!! You were great! :mlfy:

Ahh I'm so happy - off to play! :lalala:

P.s - I totally forgot you can shut down from task manager - but considering I couldn't end/close any other programs while that issue was happening anyway, I'm guessing it wouldn't have worked thru task manager either.

np, happy playing. ^^

now to wait on that /h code..

EDIT: I can't reply to your private message Seny - you have no more room in your inbox (delete some messages!), so I'll just say it here. The /h code is a needed for AGTH -in this case anyway- to extract the text properly as currently AGTH is coming up with missing characters. AGTH is a text extraction program that then uses Atlas to translate (in other words - allowing you to read the text of the game in English). What are you using if not AGTH? or can you just read Japanese that well? :)

Ah, np as I'm glad to hear stuff is ok now.

Though I'd say shutting down with task manager would have likely worked as I've had done that quite a few times when my PC has had issues similar to that in the past by other stuff

I'm pretty much having the same problem as eriberri but closing off the same process through task manager didn't work for me. I tried all that they've tried to. Is it because I didn't install the game and just have drag and dropped it from the .rar file? I didn't get a disk image.

-Gosh... bumping a year old thread.-

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Originally Posted by Seny

I got it to work perfectly on Vista, now on Windows 7 I can tun it but it wont save. According to Windows 7 the best way tio run it is on XP mode, and you got XP + service pack 3. You should also make sure you got enough space. Cause sometimes programs wont run unless you got plenty of extra. I'm still trying to figure out how to fix the saving. :/

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I got a Windows vista OS too but it kept showing me SETTEC error messages. What should I do?

Hiya, ive been having the same problem as eriberri and puerpuri. when i try and open the game task manager says that its running but after a while the process will stop. i've tried everything on this thread and i've searched everywhere for a solution. pls send help! (haha yep omertas still got problems in 2015)