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Originally Posted by dragon695  Save the sob story, do you people even know who CORE is? It's kind of like Microsoft whining about the Chinese stealing Windows, who gives a ****?!? Rich ass bastards can cry me a big, fat ****ing river!!!! Seriously, somebody needs to start a board to host the bad!content since Aarin refuses to let each person decide for themselves whether they will buy the manga. You know, not all of us have a trust fund or our own personal mint to pay for yaoi. We're willing to buy the rare good one, but seriously, you need to lighten up this ridiculous policy. Let people decide for themselves! |
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schetenei said, it won't be the individual users who will be targeted if Core decides to pursue legal action - that would be much too difficult, if not impossible and it
probably doesn't raise the sort of public policy/moral issues that some internet crime, such as dissemination of child pornography, does which might justify hunting down individual users and downloaders. The people in trouble will be the owners of the website (ie. Aarin) and possibly the forum/server provider (whether they knew what was being hosted or not). And if, as you say, CORE is loaded (I have no idea), then there's even more reason for Aarinfantasy to take notice because if they
do decide to take action, you can bet they will have a big-ass, over-paid, clever (probably in-house) legal team to represent them, who can outlast, in terms of resources and money, any kind of small operation like a fan-based forum. Not to mention that it
is illegal, or could be argued to be so (I have actually seen legal arguments that scanlations
only are not illegal based on various international laws, but I doubt that would apply to raws which are exact replicas of products which are commercially available).
I guess my point is that there is a bit more at stake here than Aarinfantasy curtailing our enjoyment of manga on a whim or arbitrarily denying us a choice of what we download, or even thumbing our nose at rich, corrupt corporations. The manga industry in Japan, from the bits and pieces I have heard, have seriously started cracking down on things like this and there have been recent prosecutions involving people hosting manga (albeit only within Japan itself and possibly for profit, I can't remember). There are much more serious consequences, which will most likely not have any direct affect on
us but has the potential to be quite serious for Aarin, which people need to consider before they start crying about not having access to manga.
It's a shame for me too - I like looking at raws (even if I can't read them) and I definately don't have the money to buy anything other than one or two favourites at a time, but you've gotta consider the issue from all viewpoints, including that of a corporation which is possibly being deprived of the chance to make a profit from products which they have laid down capital for, which is the whole purpose of its existance in the first place.
Also, it's not really like Aarin is restricting your freedom to choose. The forum is hosted voluntarily for fans as a favour, subject to donations only (as opposed to fees) and is, and should be, subject to the wishes and considerations of the owner. There is no obligation on Aarin to allow the provision of raw scans or any other material, nor does anyone here have a right to have them provided to them. The notice regarding the decision about CORE scans was also posted publically, clearly and quickly, with an explanation and this thread for us to comment. It was not done arbitrarily or without reasons being given. I don't see that there was anything else anyone could have expected them to do, in terms of making the decision, communicating it and acting on it.And really, Aarinfantasy is by no means the only place on the net to find scans. It's not like they've taken away the only access point.
I don't mean to sound rude or officious, I'm just laying out the reality as I see it.
